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Question DetailsAsked on 3/25/2012

Why doesn't Angie's List rate attorneys?

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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had


Answered 4 years ago by Guest_9020487

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Angie's List is always growing and adding more categories as our members express a demand for them.

Answered 4 years ago by Cas

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I completely agree with the previous poster. Attornies should have been one of the first things that were thought about to include in Angie's List due to all the reasons listed by the previous poster ^.

The whole reason I pay for this service is to provide me recommendations based on other people's experience where I do not have the knowledge or expertise to do so myself. Drs, Attornies, and home and auto services are the four most logical things to have.

Answered 4 years ago by A_W

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I was truly confused as to why Angies List does not provide a category for legal professionals. I was thinking of signing up because I needed a good lawyer and when I noticed that they dont provide such a category, I called them. They claim that they do not want to list attorneys because the services provided by attorneys cannot be effectively rated. I highly disagreed. People go to attorneys for specific help (i.e. file for bankruptcy, real estate closings, divorces, etc.) and the services that the attorney provides to the person (i.e. timeliness, cost, professionalism, promises, knowledge, etc.) can easily be rated. I am not going to pay a monthly fee for this service if it doesnt include all areas that someone needs help with. What I mean is, whats the point for paying a monthly fee for this site if I could find a plumber but need to pay another site to find an attorney. It should be all in one site. Really, there reasons for not having attorneys make no sense, and they should be added.

Answered 4 years ago by timmyb2

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I also came to this site in hopes of lawyer reviews. I think this would be a highly sought category. Anything customer related can be rated by said customers. I agree with all above posts, and
clearly there is a degree of demand. It doesn't make sense to omit this professional and often confusing service.

Answered 4 years ago by Nosferata138

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Probably scared of getting sued....

Answered 4 years ago by Guest_9578225

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Guess I won't be subscribing to this then.. glad I didn't waste my money.

Answered 4 years ago by gunner

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Today I thought I would join Angie's list (I have been a member in the past when I required contractors) as I need an Attorney, however I just discovered that there is no such category!
Years ago, I worked for 6 attorneys all in different areas of the law. One corporate, one litigation, one civil, one criminal etc. I would have no trouble rating each one of them. I know it would not be on the individuals win/lose column; it would be based on their overall relation and understanding of their clients. I think it is a much need category.

Answered 4 years ago by judithrobertson

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It’s a great idea and one we’ve been thinking of. We generally add categories based on member demand and that’s one that could easily be on the horizon.

Source: 

Answered 4 years ago by JP

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I think rating attorneyswould be a very valuable service. I'm a middle aged woman that has many youngadults come to me for advice. When I'm asked how they can find a good attorneyI just hang my head and sadly tell them that they have to talk around. Hopefullythey can get a free interview. This has not always been good advice and is notalways possible depending upon their situation. If there was a resource to goto where an individual could read about previous experiences of the servicesprovided by an attorney, it would be a great asset. In my mind, Angie's List isa prime place for this kind of referral.

Answered 4 years ago by denmother4

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I know many people always on the lookout for attornies. I had used Angies List for years, compiled Angie List success stories or lack thereof with contractors and doctors. Now I have a use for two different types of attorneys and was unpleasantly surprised to find no rating category. Angie's List has helped me in the past for movers, home contractors and it's a natural progression to need Attorney advice as well! Please help us find reputable attorneys; I will restart my membership based on your adding this much-needed category!

Answered 4 years ago by cturow

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Legal services are one of those things:

(1) that you use only occasionally,

(2) that you've GOT to get good consumer information about beforehand to avoid disaster, and

(3) that it's almost impossible to research effectively without a big network of family, friends, and colleagues.

In other words, it's perfect for Angie's List!

I got lucky a few weeks ago, finding an attorney to help an elderly friend with a housing problem, but I'll be needing a completely different kind of lawyer in a few months for a house sale - so here's hoping Angie's List gets this category up and running FAST.





Answered 4 years ago by mkodrph

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Call your local law school they can give you some direction,I had a problem with my mortgage they sent me to a attorney he inturn sent me to another one that had more experiance,worked out good so far ! most will give you a free consult if not they just want your money. the Law office of Darwin Overson has been awesome to work with

Answered 4 years ago by handyhank

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It is difficult to rate attorneys because not only are there a lot of them, but there are as many specialties as there in the medical field. That said, it's not that it can't be done or that reviews don't exist. Most County Bar Associations, such as Dallas County Bar Association, will have an Attorney Referral Program. The good part about it is that they will set you up with an attorney, and for $20 (unless it's changed), you get 30 minutes of an attorney's time. Sometimes that is all you need, sometimes you will decide to work with that attorney, sometimes that attorney will know a colleague who will be a better fit, or you can go back to the Bar Association and ask for another referral. This is a low risk way to get started.

Another difficulty with rating attorneys is that they can be rated on several aspects including legal expertise, absence of Bar complaints, bedside manner, how their practice is set up, how many "wins", etc. Sometimes a non-lawyer isn't even sure what kind of lawyer they need and may be barking up the wrong attorney tree, so to speak. (Another good reason to contact the county's Bar Association where you live or where the disputed transaction/conduct took place. Anyone rating a lawyer, like other ratings here, will be doing so as much on subjective expections and win/loss rather than the true compentency and professionalism of the attorney. If I need a trial lawyer to take my case to trial, I'd be less concerned about his bedside manner and more with how he/she does in the court room. (A bit like how I don't care how nice my surgeon is as long as he/she is the best cutter in the field.) However, if I need a tax lawyer, family lawyer, or estate lawyer, for example, my relationship with the lawyer may require more contact, and I would want to know not only about competency, reputation, ethics, costs, but also whether there is a fit, I feel comfortable, I trust I will be dealt with in a manner to which clients are entitled, among other things. These factors can all vary depending on whether the firm is small, medium or large.

It is best, if possible, to meet with several attorneys. There are a number of ratings sites on the web, but there is not one single site of which I'm aware that can truly encompass all aspects of whether an attorney is right for you. However, looking at these various sites can be a good start of what to look for and where to go. For any name you find or get, you will want to go to the website of State Bar of Texas (or whatever state is involved) and check to see that the lawyer and/or the law firm is in good standing. There's more, but that's a quick overview.

Answered 4 years ago by Guest_92770373

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I suspect it is because Angie's List worries that an attorney with a bad rating would possibly pursue legal action. Not worth the trouble. Any other business that wanted to do this would have to hire an attorney to represent them and most people/businesses can't afford that.

Answered 3 years ago by WT

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Agreeing with the above statements. I am in need of a Family Law Attorney to guide me through a divorce. Although my future ex and I are on good terms and I don't believe that it is going to be a nasty fight. I would like to know of a good attorney that could look over the divorce decree that my ex and I are putting together. Come on Angie's List - get the attorneys!

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9866332

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I now see I wasn't the ONLY one that joined because I thought this service would help me find a Workman's Compensation Lawyer. I had already tried several other websites looking for a reliable lawyer in Chicago. I was given advice ranging from "nothing you can do now" to "you'll never get a lawyer because your case is TOO OLD". Well, someone up there heard my plea for help. I got a reply from John J. Castaneda. His firm is Corti, Alesky and Castaneda, P.C. He is working on my case and I have confidence in him.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9203362

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Thanks for all the great feedback on this question! As mentioned previously, we always appreciate member & consumer feedback to improve Angie's List, and
attorneys/legal professionals is a category that could easily be on the horizon.


Here is full list of the more than 500 categories of business Angie's List provides trusted ratings, reviews and information for. And for anyone who joined Angie's List but was disappointed with the experience, trying Angie's is backed by our 110% money-back guarantee.

Source: http://www.angieslist.com/services.as...

Answered 3 years ago by JP

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Imagine going into a firefight against an adversary who is equipped with the latest technology and numbers in the thousands with only a pea shooter in your pocket. How long do you think you would survive? How long do you think Angie's List would survive with their pea shooter? This would be interesting to get an office pool going to see just how long they would be online, weeks, days, hours, ???. i just got off the phone with Rob at Angie's List because like you, I wanted to know why I could not look up attorney's because that is what I specifically joined for. The answer "...too much red tape involved." In other words, we're scared to take out our pea shooter. If you're scared, say you're scared, no big deal, but at least put an announcement on your membership page in big bold letters "WE DO NOT RATE ATTORNEYS" and live to fight another day.

Source: SDW

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9951172

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One very good reason is an attorney can (and will) bring lawsuit against Angie's list as well as members for any bad reviews. They may not win but they will try, and if you do not have solid proof of your allegations; you lose. Maybe they should be left to their own devices.

Answered 3 years ago by PoppyRoss

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There are a large range of specialties in legal. How about starting with a simple one, such as lawyers that specialize in "wills and estate planning" or "real estate". A lot of us would benefit from a list of lawyers that charge reasonable fees for some basic legal work.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9952683

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I have to reiterate what's already been stated. Consider what legion of unethical, dime-store, ambulance-chasing attorneys that have let their clients down would do to Angie's List, and how much expense that would entail, and how much it would raise membership fees. Granted, this is a forum for we, the people, to post our opinions or experiences, but certainly there would be hundreds if not thousands of attorneys that would go after Angie's List for libel or similar for allowing US to publish OUR OPINIONs of them, which our founding fathers guaranteed us, but ONLY if you have a better attorney than the greedy chump trying to sue you for what the Bill of Rights grants us.


Word of mouth, friends, church, etc. would probably be the best avenue to find one, but that fails if you don't have large social network.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9376479

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Is Angie's List scared of attorneys? As a member I think this is a much needed catagory!

Source: DB - Dallas, TX

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_98634612

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Like so many services listed here, you have to pay the lawyer before you go to court. Before you know if you won or lost the case. He/she gets paid, but you may not get the outcome you were looking for. If that happens on a contruction project, you make the contractor come back to fix it. If the lawyer takes your money and he gets you nothing for his time and your money, and you tell him to come back and fix it, he will just charge you MORE money, and doesn't guarantee he will fix anything!


I would have cherished the opportunity to complain about my attorney on Angie's list. He took my money and never did what I asked. His answer to that complaint was that he didn't promise I would win in court, and that it is just up to the judge, not him. But he will always get paid for his time, even if his time was a waste of my money!!!


So what can Angie do to make the attorney come back to me for free, and help me win my case? The lawyer will just laugh, and say, "she can pay me $500/hour and I will come back to help, and by the way, I'm charging them for this time on the phone with Angie!"

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_92984983

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Twice now, due to the death of both my dear parents I have had to hire probate attorneys. The experience has gone from bad to worse. The latest one has made numerous billing errors, severe errors and naturally always in their favor. They added the retainer to the bill instead of subtracted on the first bill. I wonder how many grief stricken & overwhelmed clients have not caught this.


I stuck with them hoping it would get better, and the chief lawyer who runs the firm seemed so genuinely apologetic. The case has gone on forever & I've been billed for every last little thing - even charging me for updating new attorneys who take over the case when the last one leaves. There has been an issue with a great deal of attorney turn over. The paralegal newly hired they talked up as having years of experience did not know how to get letters testimentary updated. She didn't need to in fact, I had researched how to do it & made a couple calls. If she had checked with me I could have handed her an extra I had ordered. I figured out how in 10 minutes. In 20 years of work experience she hasn't learned how? And so she asks a different paralegal in her firm, and they have the nerve to charge me for her training. Yes, that wound up on my bill. Consulting with a different paralegal to help her figure it out. I could go on - the rude & defensive receptionist, the double billing of the same item - it seems their computer billing system is also geared to only making errors in their financial favor.


It would have helped me greatly to have avoided this law firm, it's been a hand over fist rip off. You can interview to your heart's content but truly will not know how it will go down until it is too late. This is a much needed service on Angie's list.

Answered 3 years ago by BlueSparkly

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Finding an honest attorney is of the upmost importance. Their accountant figured out that it would effect their bottom line. Their is always an attorney that will sue for defamation of character, so they are avoiding this very important category only for this reason. How many people are getting terrible advice over a bancrupcy, or from an automobile accident where their attorney is actually making low dollar settlements just to keep his monthly percentages up. If Angies List is afraid of listing all lawyers under many different categories then they are doing a disservice. Imagine not listing doctors, because your excuse is that there are many different doctors, and it would be difficulty to list all the categories. That's what they make software for. An attorney can sue Angies List with no hope of winning, just to aggravate them over a long period of time and causing them to lose 20% of their yearly profits. I always go on Yelp for FREE advice and customer ratings.

Answered 3 years ago by Cyburbs

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I kow this is a VERY old post but after joining Angie's list for 2 weeks I found myself in need of a lawyer for the first time ever. I was very let down and disappointed to find they don't offer this. Very dissapointing.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_98308371

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I joined a little over a month ago. I fully expected to see ratings on attorneys. I work for an attorney in a specialized field, that requires in many instances another attorney to know our law in order to avoid disaster for our client on our client's end. In many instances we have to undo what another attorney did in order to help our client. We also have clients that come to us with their case so messed up by another attorney in the same field it is heartbreaking. Sometimes we can undo it, but the expense to this population of people is horrendous. We see attorneys in our field charge double of what we charge for the same service and require most of their fees upfront in a field of law that could easily support payments for the length of time it takes to complete a case.

We have seen cases that should have never gone forward, because it was not qualified to do so, but it was an easy buck for the attorney. We have seen an attorney be on the Rising Star list with us knowing he was a crook (because of clients that left him) and eventually turned in his license before he was disbarred.


It is absolutely an enormous need to have reviews on attorneys. I want an attorney that will be fair, not nickel and dime me to death and know and keep up with their legal field of expertise. Be honest and ethical. In our field, we always tell the client to seek a 2nd opinion if they do not like our answer. It is well worth the consult fee, because their lives and futures are on the line. One misstep and their case is toast.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_99513571

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I, too, joined in hoping to get help on finding a good attorney. I am very disappointed there isn't any help in this.


Answered 3 years ago by Guest_95762751

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Look on yelp. It's free and there many attorneys organized by seciality.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9383175

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I hope that Angies List will dare to start rating Attorneys with two simple questions:

'Would you use this lawyer again (Y/N)' and 'What area of law were you seeking counsel about?', and list a very standard list (Department of Labor perhaps) of legal subspecialties.


The first question appears to me to be unchallengeable, and the second is a point of fact.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_99340878

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Funny that another site that starts with a Y and rhymes with 'Help' has no problem putting lawyers reviews on their site...


Sueing Angies List for a bad review wouldn't fly any more than it does at Y-Help... They simply say "sue the person that posted the reviews, not us!" kinda thing...


MANY people have tried (unsuccessfully) to sue "y" but they still haven't changed their policies - I even have 2 'fake' reviews on my business list on there, but they won't remove them (they were put up by my competition to lower my scores and such, but I can't prove it because they won't give me the 'real' names or IPs - I only know they are fake because they mention doing work for a 'company' and I only work with individuals)


Anyway, I really wish Angies would put lawyers in... It might have saved me some $$ as well as TIME (more valuable!) trying to find a GOOD lawyer...

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_910312519

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I vote to have attorneys added, as well. I am a member and just logged in to look for an estate planner and there isn't a category.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_985937525

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I also wish that Angie's List would have attorneys. I have been very burnt by local attorneys. I have actually made a complaint about these 2 attorneys to the Florida Bar. I would have been very glad to hear if any other clients had the bad experience I had.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_96555504

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Having had many issues over the years where I needed legal advice I can understand how complicated rating attorneys would be. There is medical malpractice, drug damage claim, social security, divorce, personal injury, wills and estate planning,real estate law, elder law, and those are just the categories I personally have used an attorney. For each of these issues it required me finding a totally different attorney. So here is what I did. I used an attorney years ago that I found to be reliable. We maintained an ongoing relationship in that I call on him for reccommendations involving other matters. Law is as broad a spectrum as medicine. Maybe even more so. And in each state the interpretations and requirements are different. I deal with Va. and Fla law situations and that is a handful.

Answered 3 years ago by BluButterfly

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My first guess would be Fear of being sued.

I tthink it would be great if people shared their experiences with lawyers. It is a profession that has been described as "A license to steal". One attorney told me, "How much do I charge...How much are you worried about it?" the price goes up.

I read recently that 1 in 25 people are biologically sociopaths. Dr. Robert Hare says that a larger than normal percentage of those sociopaths gravite toward politics, financial services and Law.

So, recommendtaions from Angie's list could probably save many people a lot of abuse, heartache and money


Answered 3 years ago by divineone

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In my vast (I say vast bcs my hair is gray & I've earned the right) experience: Lawyer & Good in the same sentence is an oxymoron. I have nevery found a good attorney. My best results come from going pro per (myself) & hire a consult from a para legal or atty by the hour. Never give up the power by having someone else represent you. Sorry, I am still waiting for my knight to ride in on a white stallion but s/he never comes! Has anyone ever had a good lawyer experience? I'd sure like a name. Puppy Love from Inventing Joy & Furry folk

Source: Vast experience & gray hair

Answered 3 years ago by InventingJoy

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To the last poster who said if you've ever had a good experience with a lawyer, then post it - well I have. There are decent and honest ones out there. It's just the luck of the draw to find them. I had a great lawyer who represented me in an L&I claim. He charged no more % of back wages than any of them do, was honest, and when one of the medical claimants did not cash the check - he returned the funds to me years later. He held them just in case the company did an audit & found the money was due.


But the specialty area of different areas of law are just as big an issue for lawyers as doctors. Even if you had the best cardiologist or neurosurgeon in the world, if you needed a hand surgeon you would not be well served to just go with whoever did a good job in the past. I needed a probate attorney and that is where the nightmare began.


So it is a needed service, and there is a point to having reviews to help people pick out the decent ones from those who screw up everything but sending the bill. Also, I don't know who is voting down all the posts saying we need lawyers added to the reviews. If you don't want to check out lawyer reviews, then don't. They should be offered by Angie's List, it's certainly as important as picking the right service to mow your lawn or repair your car.

Answered 3 years ago by BlueSparkly

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Did anyone vote against having AL rate attorneys? I certainly didn't. I just said Attorney & Good in the same sentence is an oxymoron. I also said anyone who's had a good experience pls post with a name. I also vote AL include lawyers. You don't know how much I want to be proven wrong. I would give anything to find a good lawyer. Come on Angie, make it happen!!! Puppy love from Inventing Joy & Furry Folk

Answered 3 years ago by InventingJoy

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I just joined (already paid) with absolutely no idea that lawyers woudn't be included on Angie's list. We are trying to adopt our grandson whom we have raised since he was 2years old and he is now 6. After 6 years of little interest, his father is opposing the adoption. I need an attorney and this is too important to "let my fingers do the walking" or google search. How in the world would I ever be able to choose. Even if you filter searches down to specialties, the list is too long. I have been informed that the bar association has a referral service, but I think they only exclude someone because of an official censure or investigation. I guess that's where I'll go, but I'm terribly, terribly disappointed.



Answered 3 years ago by Guest_98765251

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Don' t understand why Angies List does not answer this question. If any service needs a rating, it would be legal. The categories are family, civil, commercial, etc. No big deal. The questions start with "Did he suck, or did he represent you faithfully?" Little humor there, but you get the idea. Not hard at all. Not complicated at all. We, as a people are not stupid. No more difficult than rating a doctor. Excuse my french, but there are crooks out there that do not even look at their client's cases, or discuss one thing with their client, because they got their money already. These need to be exposed. The bar is not going to tell you. They are not objective. The bar can have connections with attorneys. We need some site, somewhere, somehow, that can give the people a means to rating an attorney. They should not be off limits. Thank you.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_93296504

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As an attorney with over 13 years of experience, I wish that everyone understood the "business" of law better. First, we are not all a bunch of rich, crooked schiesters. Most of us are small business people, who care enough to try to help other people with their problems. The problem is two-fold: first the legal system is unreliable and unpredictable. Much will depend on which judge is assigned to your case, and much will depend on how litigious the other side is. No attorney has very much, if any, control over either of those two things. Second, we are "stuck" with the client and their set of facts. Our rules of ethics prohibit us from taking on contingency fee cases, normally except in cases of personal injury. Almost all other legal work is required to be billed on an hourly basis.


When you hire a roofer, and I have done roofing, it is a pretty straightforward proposition to know how much the job should cost, the time it will take, etc. No person alive can do this in our current legal system. Any attorney that tells you they can is lying. Period.


We are paid based upon the hourly work which we do on a case. We cannot predict outcomes, and if we could, there would be no need for a legal system. Most lawyers are as frustrated as their clients with the system, but there is nothing that can be done to change it.


I would strongly recommend you ask around your community; word of mouth is still the best advertising for attorneys. I have had false postings on yahoo and google from among other people, disgruntled ex-employees posing as ex clients. My staff and I work very hard to make our clients happy. The simple fact of life is that no matter how hard your lawyer works for you, you might still not get everything you want in a legal case. In that type of a situation, it would be grossly unfair to the attorney to post "reviews" for work that was properly done.

Answered 3 years ago by gomikie2

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Angie doesn't want to get into defamation lawsuits.

As a member, I recommend adding the category.

Successful businesses listen to their paying customers.

Answered 3 years ago by whatpoints

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I hope this is not interpreted as advertising for another site.


I can understand why Angies List would not want to open the can of worms involved wiith providing attorney reviews.


There is a website out there that review attorneys and that I used to fing an Estate Planning Attorney.


http://www.avvo.com


Surprisingly, he didn't even knoe about the site, let alone the fact that he had a 5 star review.


I hops this helps.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9431662

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Answered 3 years ago by Guest_93519504

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I agree with the other posts regarding rating lawyers. Of course you can always call the Boston Law Associates and get a referral. I have used this option twice in the past regarding landlord/tenant issues (I'm a landlord) the two lawyers were very curteous, returned my call quickly and gave me the information I needed over the phone at no cost. Of course this was a very simple situation and finding a good lawyer is NOT easy.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_990625040

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TY poster for posting http://www.avvo.com What a great site! FREE! I actually found an atty with about a dozen 5 star reviews that includes my situation & no complaints. How unusual! I'm the one who said "Atty good" oxymoron. I called a very efficient intake coordinator who made a phone appt. I didn't even have to go to the office. She took my details & they will get back to me on whether they will take my case. So far so good. Also, the atty is a woman. nice. I want to thank you poster. I had to let you know. You may have saved my house. Put that in your Karma Bank! Puppy love from Inventing Joy & Furry Folk

Source: http://www.avvo.com

Answered 3 years ago by InventingJoy

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Don't you know they are all Bad

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_97279001

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I didn't mean they were all bad. I said I never met a good one. I soooooo want to be wrong. Send me energy everyone. Let me be wrong. Let this one be a good one. Puleeeeeez! Anyhow, I'm grateful for that site. Some people have been lucky. PUppy love from Inventing Joy & Furry Folk

Answered 3 years ago by InventingJoy

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The decision by Angie's list to opt out of rating attorneys is gutless and definitely does their subscribers a disservice. I won't be recommending this site to anyone!

Answered 3 years ago by shamokin

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because angies list is about reputation and honesty , enough said

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_95924753

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I had trouble finding good/average patent attorney randomly on my own. They should have a reputation rating for attorneys like any other service. Stay away from patent firms. You pick an attorney based on resume and a flunky ends up doing the patent application. My experience is they just review the work of the flunky ex patent examiner.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_98190372

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I would think for Several reasons .

1) each case is different in its details

2) each client is different in means and goals

3) each defendent is different in means and method

4) each time frame for adjucation or action is different and could drag on for years.

5) the law varies from state to state and year to year

6) attorneys vary in skills, experience, diligence, influence, motivation and greed

Source: observations, personal experience, news reports

Answered 3 years ago by Papa

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Most likely,

Angies List is wary of litigation from attorneys being rated. Attorneys understand libel and would make use of their knowledge to make trouble; Rightfully so I might add. If a member were to post anything but a fully accurate account of any service received (good or bad), they should be corrected.

Answered 3 years ago by gnew18

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It would business suicide for Angies list to rate attorneys. period... I guess the average guy is cluless. You are demanding that Angies list subject themselves to millions in lawsuits that cost the attourney nothing but a little time. One of the reasons this country is so messed up. The elephant in the room is that companies have their products made overseas not just for the price but also there are no attorneys lined up to sue them as is here.

Answered 3 years ago by Ascent

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Not really an answer here, rather an alternative service I subscribe to, namely PrePaid Legal. For just $17.00 p/m you have the included 80 hours of attorney advise from an assigned Law Office, in your region. You call the Law Firm directly for issues and they call you back with the appropriate Field Professional employed by that Law Firm. The PrePaid Legal Membership is treated as though Bill Gates walked into their Office, thousands of people use this as an alternative to having a Lawyer on retention, and if you do require to go to court, a discount of 25% is offered when you choose any of their Lawyers. Maybe this system could help you.

Source: Myself

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9548745

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The argument that a negative review on Angie's List would result in a lawsuit from an attorney is fairly absurd, and I think likely put up by lawyers or law firms that know they deliver substandard service and hope to scare off truthful reviews.


The publicity that would be generated by a law firm suing the writer of a bad review (or the review service, i.e. Angie's List) would be incredibly damaging to that law firm. Tons of free bad publicity - if a law firm or lawyer was stupid enough to go for this, they would garner 1000x the exposure of that bad review.


The media jump on attempts to sue over unflattering reviews like white on rice. Or other analogies, perhaps better suited to describing poor quality lawyers who have as their best talent, high efficiency at extracting funds for minimal work.

Answered 3 years ago by BlueSparkly

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Because of potential law suit from the ill-rated attorneys


Answered 3 years ago by unnimama

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Angie's list needs to rate and allow feedback on attorneys, just like any other business. Could they get sued? Sure; Any business could try to sue anyone , including all of business which are currently rated on Angie's list. However, that is not a reason for Angie's list to exclude attorneys. Besides, the ratings are from customers, not from Angie's list. If their customer/clients are not satisfied with their services then this needs to be shared with the public.


Angie's list: Please add attorneys to your service providers.

Answered 3 years ago by billandnancy1

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Very disappointed to have joined Angie's List and discovered they don't participate in rating lawyers. I agree with the other posts. That would be one very important thing people need to know.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_930781233

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They really need to.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_97998871

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Lawyers aren't the only profession that sues people. They're just the only profession that doesn't have to hire someone else to do it. And nobody has to do that if they go to small claims court. Give it a try, see if AngiesList and/or members get sued, and then decide.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_95140625

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They should. I purchased this service for attorney, physician , dentist recommendations. What a waste of my money.....

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9677270

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I worked in legal for more than 20 years. I sincerely believe that there should be a listing for legal professionals based on the fact that Honolulu (where the bulk of the attorneys are). There are many, much too many attorneys who over bill. They have attorneys who have "ethics" in question. I've seen attorneys enter into businesses with clients (though it is frowned upon), I have seen attorneys get into sexual relationships with clients while representing them, and so forth, while claiming to represent their "best interest at heart". I have also witnessed many office staff be subjected to yells, screams and ranting and ravings by attorneys who seemingly have no conscience. Although I held a position with a firm for more than 17 years, I quit because the Senior Attorney would not intervene in a conflict involving his associate. While away on a business trip to China, she falsified a possible employer's background search on me which did not allow me to get the job. Due to the fact that my family was close with the Senior Attorney's family, I did not pursue it further, although I could have.


Oh yeah, personal outcome is also a factor in attorney ratings as more former clients would be willing to give a bad rating if their cases don't come out on top.


However, fairly said, there are many great attorneys here in Honolulu, some more than others, let your instinct be your guide in selecting an attorney, many of them give case evaluations, ask to meet with the staff members who will be working on your case, if you don't feel comfortable, walk out, you have lost nothing but your time, if you factor in a bit of education to the mix, you've actually come out ahead.


The Office of Disciplinary Counsel also does attorney investigations.


Good luck.





Answered 3 years ago by Guest_942940012

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1. Yes it is pretty clear that it is "a fit" for Angies List

2. It will probably NEVER happen.


Why? Very very simple. A lawyer can easily sue Angie's List and waste WAY too much of their time/money. They don't want the risk, expense or hassle. You can be VERY confident that Angie's lawyers told her to stay away from that line of business. The possible revenue it MIGHT generate would be completely wasted by 1-2 petty little lawsuits from lawyers.


Now if a non-USA citizen were to create such a site and host it overseas - that would work. And they could totally ignore all the summons, legal notices and "cease and desist" orders from a USA lawyer or court.


Answered 3 years ago by Jefferson

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I don't know why. But some clues to a competent attorney are an AV ranking by Martindale-Hubbell, being selected as one of the "best lawyers" by US News and World Report, a strong ranking by Avvo.com, and a good reputation at the local law school. There is no ranking that is perfect, but this is somewhere to start. Unfortunately, you need to pay to see all attorneys ranked by Martindale-Hubbell (they show only those who pay a fee). Also, a good attorney may well charge for a consultation, because they have to spend considerable time understanding your case and advising you of your options. Most reputable and well-established attorneys do not have time to do a thorough intake for free--if they did, they would have little time for representing their actual clients. Newer attorneys or those who view the consultation as simply a sales opportunity will often do free consultations. In any case, I recommend seeing at least two attorneys, and paying attention to the questions they ask you. If they are not asking detailed questions, they are not going to know what your options are to analyze your case thoroughly and represent you well.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_91238112

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that is a great Question I wished I could answer it.


Answered 3 years ago by Guest_97578732

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If there ever was a good reason to exlude attorneys, it is probably no longer valid. The litigation risk could be avoided by requiring member/attorneys to hold Angie's List harmless for defamation by reviewers.


Furthermore, today attorneys expose themselves to all kinds of adverse reviews on the internet and social media; and still their malpractice insurors keep renewing their policies.


If I am providing the kind of service my clients expect, I have no fear of unjustified adverse reviews.


Jim Wills, Attorney at Law

Answered 3 years ago by jameswills

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Because Angie's List may be worried they could get sued! O.K. that was a pretty good punch line. How do you determine if an attorney is good or not? Can you solely base it on wether or not you won your case? I don't think every attorney can win each case no matter how good they are, their client may be guilty or not have enough evidence to support a win in the case.

Answered 3 years ago by CraftsmanConnection

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If I owned/ran Angies List I would never rate attorneys, ever, no way, no how. There are other referral services for them that you can use. AL is a non-participating clearing house of information voluntarily donated by it's users for the general good of the subscribers. I do not think a lawsuit against AL would ever succeed simply because all they do is provide a forum for you and me to trade info on our experiences with various service providers. This not to say that they wouldn't be sued as there are plenty of Lawyers who will take/file any case they can write a brief on. AL likely has no desire to invite litigation when they don't have to. And for those people who sign up for something like this without thoroughly researching all they offer first, I will grudgingly agree that perhaps a disclaimer stating the fact that lawyers are not included would be in order, prominently displayed on the home page.


Answered 3 years ago by Guest_973906233

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As someone who worked in the legal industry for 25 years, I am going to give you my opinion why Angie's List SHOULD NOT refer attorneys.


1. Reputable attorneys do not advertise. They depend on word of mouth and th

2. Your local State Bar has a program where you can pay for a free referral to an attorney and have a free consultation (Ironic that you "pay" for a free consultation).

3. Attorneys that do advertise (in my opinion) usually tend to be firms where you are just a number, and you don't personalized attention.

4. Don't EVER go to an attorney that advertises; they are looked at within the legal industry as bottom feeders.


Good referral websites:

Your local State Bar (by County)

Lawyers.com

For California: www,calbar.ca gov


Laurie Palmer


Source: Why Angie's List shouldn't have attorneys on its site

Answered 3 years ago by LEP627

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If you rate a money grabbing, ambulance chasing lawyer as such, well, maybe you'll get served...

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_9359026

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I logged on today and was VERY DISAPPOINTED to not find an attorney/law firm category. I guess it avoids lawsuits?? No other good explanation.

Answered 3 years ago by Guest_90623625

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The best way to find an attorney is to speak with friends, family and coworkers. You must be clear about what you need; the time frame you expect to receive it and what options are availablet to and for you regarding the issues you face.


Attorneys are like anyone else you hire: plumbers; roofer; carpenters, etc. They are their to provide you with a service. Remember it is your money that you are spending and you need to take responsibility for adequately supervising them. No you don't have to know the law, but you need to know what your options are. As with any other professional, interview a few of them. ASK THEM FOR REFERRALS OF PEOPLE FOR WHOM THEY HAVE PERFORMED SIMILAR WORK. THEN CALL AND SPEAK WITH THE PEOPLE. ASK THE ATTORNEY TO COMMIT HIS ADVICE TO PAPER AND ACTUALLY READ IT OR WRITE A FOLLOW UP LETTER TO THE ATTORNEY ONCE YOU AND THE ATTORNEY HAVE MET CONFIRMING THE DETAILS. Comparison shop with other attorneys. Learn to speak their language for the issue which you are facing. You can't allow them to run YOUR show. It's your money after all.


If you feel that you have done all that you could and hired an attorney whom really did not perform the services for which you hired the attorney, you have resources. You can file a complaint against the attorney with the ARDC - Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission. The best way to do work rather it flooring or estate planning is simply to do so by referral. Ask around and get referrals from people you know and trust and hopefully your experience will be better than by contacting someone off of a website or tv ad.


Good luck!

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_97021253

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Guest wrote: Attorneys are like anyone else you hire: plumbers; roofer; carpenters, etc. They are their to provide you with a service." Exactly. Which is why there should be a category.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_93061752

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Try AVVO.com


Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9985102

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LEP621 wrote

"As someone who worked in the legal industry for 25 years, I am going to give you my opinion why Angie's List SHOULD NOT refer attorneys.


1. Reputable attorneys do not advertise. They depend on word of mouth and th"


I had to go to fee dispute against a lawyer. The case was heard by 3 attorneys from very reputable Philadelphia firms. I was taken to task by them for having gone to an attorney whom I had previously known from high school instead of finding a lawyer who advertised. Lawyers seem to have no problem with attorneys who advertise.

No one is asking Angie's list to 'refer" attorneys. They are asking why there is not a category so we can read the good, and bad, experiences people have had.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_93061752

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Call the Local Bar Association and for a small fee, they will refer you to an attorney who will meet with you and discuss your issue for 30-60 minutes. If you think their advice is sound and the amount they believe it will cost is sound (but usually ends up being more), consider hiring them or not. You can also get another referral. And no attorney worth his salt is going to offer anyone a discount. I know that both from being in the industry and being a client.


I posted awhile back because I saw this and wanted people to know why it is not in AL or your best interest for them to refer attorneys. I was in the legal profession for over 20 years. It is a highly confidential business. There are many matters and relationships that attorneys cannot legally divulge. They are held to very high standards by the Bars to which they belong & can lose their license over mistakes, not taking care of the client, keeping meticulous records, etc. If something went wrong, you could end up with nothing. If that happened, people would probably sue Angie's List. They would be playing with fire if they did it. It would require too much investigation re each attorney who would want to join (on their part), and it's not worth their time for the fee we pay Angie's List yearly.


By the way, good attorneys don't advertise. So please, anyone that considers doing that, please don't. Everything I have expressed here is based on my experience and opinion.


I put a link under my answer that gives info on how to find a lawyer referral, and information you may need. I hope everyone finds great representation for their matters. Good luck.




Source: http://www.expertlaw.com/library/cons...

Answered 2 years ago by LEP627

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Martindale Hubbard rates attornys.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9323581

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It seems a bit odd they don't have attorneys on here but they have physicians. Their reason was attorneys are highly specialized and people don't often understand the business of law. Well, with that logic the same can be said about the practice of medicine, but they sure don't seem to mind patients rating their doctor an F over seemingly minor things. I think they're afraid of being sued if they put attorneys on here.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_90690873

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I thought you would until I read this. I hired one in Texas to check a paper I was to sign. He kept calling the other attorney's office after that was done and increasing my bill so I would only communicate by email. This helped because I sent the necessary emails to the head of his law firm and she only charged me for what I had requested. There must be some honest ones but I've found worse in PA. I can understand not wanting to deal with them but there are times we need one so I wish you would check. One person in PA wanted me to sign a paper that said it lasted 8 years. When I said I wouldn't sign it he said the company would ignore the 8 years.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_95713521

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It seems to me that if you can rate doctors, then you should be able to rate lawyers. Are you afraid that they will sue you if someone gives them a bad review? Some of the most unscrupulous people in our society are attorneys, and it would be beneficial to know the honest ones are.

Answered 2 years ago by RonfromMD

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More to the point, why doesn't someone from angieslist just jump in here and freakin' answer this question for their members? They obviously know this discussion is taking place on this board - it seems to me cowardly to remain silent. Maybe their lawyer told them to remain mum, lol - but lol ruefully. Lives have been ruined by bad lawyers. One of my own relatives died an early death due to the stress and anguish of helplessly watching another relative, a poverty-stricken but totally honorable person, be ripped up by unscrupulous attorneys. We tried to help but kept just getting in deeper with worse and worse attorneys; we were babes in the nightmare forest of wicked attorneys. Pathetic - and humiliating, too. Angieslist, bottom line, needs to acknowledge this is a HUGE need and get busy posting reviews of attorneys. Maybe it would help their stock chart turn up, too!

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9615936

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In Virginia, you can call the Virginia State Bar, Lawyer Referral Service at (804)775-0590

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9323574

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Perhaps they don't want to be sued!! That is what attorneys do.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_97543991

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I would like for angie's list to rate attorneys. I would also recommend rating financial advisors.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9868932

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There are a lot of guesses that can be made as to why lawyers are not rated oin Angie's List but my best guess is the lawsuits that could result from a negative review. It is true that there are a lot of lawyers but that is a poor excuse for not including them. It is true that lawyers do not all practice the same type of law becuase they specialize in certain areas but so do doctors and they are rated here, making that excuse is unacceptable. Perhaps certain catagories are added to Angie's List based on the number of people asking for it, but it sure seems like a number of people are asking for it and yet it is not added. That leaves fear of being sued...a fear that we all have because anyone can be sued for anything real or imagined. The anguish is still there. For people who need a "good" lawyer there is no place to look for one and that is just sad. Lawyers seem to be in an elite catagory where they are immune from the same scrutiny as everyone else and since they are the ones who generally make the laws, that immunity is unlikely to be changed. In a forum such as this, we shuld be able to speak our minds freely about them as we do about all the other people reviewed on this site.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9534651

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A full two years from the original post and still no attorney ratings. This is one area that people are constantly looking for information (not mis-information) on. I will not be renewing my membership...

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_98201972

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I would very much like to see this as a category added. Some of the answers have suggested contacting law schools, state bar associations. Good ideas. A better idea is for Angie's List to include such. We rely on real peoples' opinions and personal experiences. I put much more weight on Angie's ratings that on someone who may be referring an attorney with whom she plays golf or whose kids go to the same school, etc.


Kyle in RI

Answered 2 years ago by ChrisRI

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Just recently became a member, and I am extremely disappointed to find that there are no referrals for attorneys. Kind of makes me wish I hadn't joined.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9760871

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I think that it would be a great idea to have Lawyer ratings. I just got swindled by a 'minister' that was hired to build a deck. I could not find someone that would take the time to help me for my problem that did seem worth their time. I had to educate myself so I could take on the insurance company. I just cashed a $4,000 check for my trouble. This took up 7 months of my time. - John

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9464954

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The more one ponders all the legal ramifications from attorney's getting their feathers ruffled by clients calling them out on AL, then we can probably understand why AL does not rate attorney's. Even though the reviews may be accurate & honest, there are some attorney's who do not have those standards as priorities within their chosen field of practice! It would probably be a litigation nightmare for AL to do so! I wish they could or would, but I never see that happening in today's world.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9971698

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Yes, please add lawyers to your list. It would be a great help for all members. Pretty much everybody will need an attorney at some point in time.


Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9954510

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Like so many of the answers (and there seems to be a LOT of responses) I am in need of an attorney and figured AL would be a great resource. But my confindence is somewhat shaken by the posts that if enough requests were received, the category would be added, and there seems to be MORE than enough feedback on the subject to warrant adding the category. Here's the thing; The posts that stated that the category would be added were over 1 ago!!! How much demand does AL require??? I haven't joined and probably won't because of the narrowness of selections (The first time I go to check it out, they don't have what I'm looking for), and their obvious tactics at avoiding customer requests (Say one thing,then....).

Source: Suggested by friends.

Answered 2 years ago by JoeyC

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There is no doubt that an attorney rating system would be useful on Angie's list. In the meantime on can refer to Avvo.com which tries to rate attorneys in an unbiased manner. (unlike Martindale.com where the attorneys are peer rated) I have used Avvo in the past successfully along with checking with the local area's bar association.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_96962123

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As the owner of both a business The Divorce Coach and a not-for-profit on divorce The Alliance to Restore Integrity in Divorce (ARID), my first thought was looking for their lawyer ratings. I, too was surprised not to find them. But then I realized, the fear of undermining all the good work Angie's list has built up over the years vs lawsuits by vindictive attorneys. There is hope however. Angies' list may not be the place to find a "good" attorney but the various blogs, google sites and internet news are the perfect place to read about the reputation of an attorney. As an educator who guides my clients through the process, starting out a layperson has no idea what to look for in an attorney nor if they are accurate in their representations to you. Only time, which can be detrimental in a legal dispute, will tell if your trust (and money) was misplaced. Once my clients have the tools, they can search freely and easily for the right match (or no match and go pro se!) I'd love Angie's list to find a way to list attorneys, but I get the reason they don't.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9712070

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The best place to obtain attorney ratings is your state and local bar associations or check with the ARDC. There is no charge for it.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9306722

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I AM IN NEED OF AN ESTATE ATTORNEY. SO I TURNED TO ANGIES LIST. I HAVE ALREAY USED THE LIST TWICE TO HIRE AN ELECTRICAN, AND AN APPLIANCE REPAIR GUY. BOTH WITH GREAT RESULTS. I DON'T AGRESS WITH YOUR PREMISE THAT ATTORNEYS CAN'T BE RATED. THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAT ANY OTHER CONTRACTOR THAT YOUR CLIENTS USE AND RATE. THEY GIVE A SERVICE. HOW WELL DID THEY PREFORM THAT SERVICE. WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT SERVICE. ETC. SAME QUESTIONS YOU ASKED ON THE CONTRACTORS. WE NEED A LIST OF GOOD PERFORMING ATTORNIES. THERE ARE SO MANY THAT AREN'T GOOD AND ANGIES LIST CAN SEPERATE THEM FOR US. PLEASE ADD THE CATEGORY.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9498468

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so, i get an email saying there is a new answer, but there is no new answer.



Answered 2 years ago by Guest_91159621

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Joined today to specifically find a probate attorney. Glad I had a coupon and used Paypal. Hopefully I'll be able to use it for something else this year...


Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9730993

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I am a retired attorney of over forty years experience. Anyone who would rely on a site like Angie's List to choose an attorney is foolish. There are free rating systems for attorneys by those knowledgeable about the profession-other attorneys and judges. First, check with the highest court of your state, such as the Ohio Supreme Court's website for any disciplinary actions against an attorney; this is a public record. Then, if a prospective attorney clears that hurdle go to a law library and ask a clerk for the location of any rating books, e.g., Martindale-Hubbell. if you have a CPA or other professional in your life they are also good resources for locating an attorney who will meet your needs. Good luck.

Answered 2 years ago by TPM

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I am surprised. This was the primary reason for my joining Angie's List. Thought for sure that you would provide this service. How could you be sued? They are purely opinion based responses- nothing else. But that is better than hiring one blind.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9645031

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From someone with professional experience in the industry (Paralegal Degree, Certification, Private Law Firm Experience), I think answer I can answer this question with a high-degree of certainty.


The problem with rating the legal profession is that unlike other industries, it's subjective and that quality/level of service does not always equate to positive results and consumers ALWAYS equate results with quality of service.


For example, let's say that you need a painter to paint the inside of our house. The painter can make an assessment based on a consultation and provide you an estimate to do the work. At the end of the day, the work is either done as agreed to or it's not and the customer can objectively rate this contractor based on the final result.


An attorney, however, cannot promise results, only a level of service commensurate with the profession, but that doesn't matter to the client who is only concerned with results. An attorney has to deal with the cards they are dealt as far as the clients they are given and ultimately the results are based on the client's case to begin with and often the decision of a third-party (D.A., judge, arbitrator, jury, etc.). In most cases, people don't go to an attorney unless they are in trouble criminally or civilly to begin with. And yes, of course I'm aware that there are attorneys that deal with estate planning, real estate, etc., exclusively, but even those fields of law can cause problems for attorneys if their clients have screwed things up before they walk through the door.


So, what it comes down to is that you could have hired the best attorney in the world to defend you for robbing that liquor store but there's not a whole lot they can do to keep you out of a prison when they have you on video and the police catch you with the gun used in the robbery and the stolen money a block from the scene of the crime. You could have the best family attorney in the world but there's not a lot they can do regarding custody when you have a documented history of domestic violence and criminal convictions for the same. You could have the best attorney in the world but there's not a lot they can do when you've been arrested for your fifth DUI and now you've killed someone. You could have the best attorney in the world but there's not a whole lot they can do when you've been in a car accident and it's discovered that you have faked your injuries.


Do you see where I'm going with this? Out of those scenarios, despite the best representation possible, do you think that any of those clients would rate their attorney highly or even remotely objectively? Do you think anyone is going to write a review that says, "We hired this law firm and although my father is now serving 15 years in prison, our representation was fantastic and well-worth the $15,000 in legal fees we paid." I don't find that very likely and for that reason, it's probably not a good idea for Angie's List to get in the business of rating attorneys as the ratings would be skewed and not particualrly informative.


There are many local sources including your local legal aid services that would be far more qualified to recommend attorneys than a private service based almost entirely on user contributions would be.

Source: Professional Experience

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9003767

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I doubt that people who are looking for a criminal defense attorney are going to turn to Angie's List.

The same argument can be made for doctors, can it not? I was initially opposed to Angie's List rating MDs because of the same fears you hold re: attorneys. My concerns have not taken form and I'm pleased with the quality of ratings.

Please remember most of Angie's List subscribers are reasonably intelligent and able to use their own rating systems when reading the statements of customers/clients.

I'm definitely beginning to wonder why the attorneys are so very frightened of this. I do wish one who is in favor of it would post a reply. My attorney who has helped me with estate planning, setting up a small business, professional consultation with my work, reported he had no problem with it. He agrees with me that most people want to learn about the qualitative aspects of the lawyer, if people were satisfied with the professionalism, rapport, ease of contact, truthfulness.

If someone is looking for an attorney for the types of engagement you just mentioned, and they received 10 years instead of getting off, I suppose it's similar to be diagnosed with cancer by a doc who was unable to cure it. Really, we are a pretty wise group.



Source:  Kyle from RI

Answered 2 years ago by ChrisRI

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There is no reason that Angie's List should not rate attorneys. Having reliable objective information regarding businesses, including attorneys, is what Angie's List is all about and this is very important to the consumers who subscribe to Angie's List. If the concern is the possibility of a lawsuit for unfavorable reviews, there is no more or less likelihood than with any other business which is rated by consumers on this site. Subscribers have been requesting this service for years and Angie's list should reconsider their position.

Answered 2 years ago by billandnancy1

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I think having Attorney's listed would be a GREAT idea. As many are very specialized, their ratings would be very specific. Sadly, I think the reality is they are afraid that they could be sued if someone left an (honest) truthful negative review.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_97599372

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WOW - so glad I didn't renew after reading these answers. I assumed Angie's List would include attorneys, and right now, that's the service provider I'm looking for (after having bad experiences with three of them). Time to put the Angie's List promo offers into Junk Mail. Bye!

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9444677

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Rating Attorneys makes total sense to the consumers. perhaps it doesn't make business sense to Angies List. It should now!

I've read most of the previous responses to this question, and find most replies support my previous statements.

Angies list... Try a different approach. Ask us as members to respond to 'How we would rate an attorney'; maybe it should be categorized with attorneys in specialities for: criminal, civil litigation, workers comp., personal injury, wrongful death, medical malpractice, divorce, wills/estates, corporate law, etc. You get it. Ask us how to rate attorneys. In fact, ask us how to revise your overall rating system to be more responsive to specific services. Maybe your rating system should be tailored to each specific service/ industry instead of one rating sytem fits all?

Rating attorneys has typically been a rating by the "good ole boy network." Now it's time to re-write that chapter and tailored it to each specific service/industry. PB.


Answered 2 years ago by Guest_94266503

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We specifically and only joined Angie's list to find an attorney......really REALLY disappointing.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9812520

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I realize how frustrating this is for everyone. It's NOT a good idea for a lot of reasons. When you pick an attorney, you want to find ones that have a working relationship with the judges in the court house you will be appearing at. Only pick an attorney from someone who has used them personally and has developed a good reputation. If you don't know anyone, go to the court and ask the deputies there to makes some suggestions to you. The deputies see all the attorneys there and watch their performance. Some attorneys use showboating techniques but don't necessarily do anything for you. Some attorneys pad their billing so kept track and ask lots of questions.

Peoples cases vary. No two cases are alike so its hard for the public to compare cases without a legal background and without all the facts. Some people will require specialist while others require only minimal work. You have to talk to the attorney to see if he/she is qualified for your particular case.

Check out their reputation within the community. How do other attorneys feel about them?

Another thing Angie's list couldn't possibly do is sort through the strawman complaints people make because they didn't get their way.

Source: Law background

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9425703

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What would you expect ratings to be of most Attornies? Manyy people write reviews based on what is on their mind. Additionally negatives ae usually more bold on our minds than positives...


So "IF" we put Legal services on Angie's list the grading scall willl have to go to Negatiive Z vice just "F".


Many Americans realize that if they needed a lawyer, they were not going to get true justice. It is a shamme that someone wrote you need to find a lawyer who knows the judges (etc) and will get (FAVORS) in the courtroom.... What a sad statement about the quality of our justice system. It "may" be the best in the world- but if we need the 'relationships of judges to lawyers" as a scale to hire a lawyer on... it is debatable whether this system is truly the best in the world.


When you do hire a lawyer- get them to give you in writing their SCALE of fees.... Remember asking them a question can cost you hundreds of dollars once you retain them. Your giving them any input to the strategy of a case- WILL COST YOU MONEY. At an avg price of more than $300/hr now.... GOOD LUCK!

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_95968341

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I have to add my voice, that I also just joined Angie's List yesterday and one of the first searches I did was to find a lawyer to do a new will for me. I just moved to PA from Michigan so it's difficult to find reliable and competant providers so I joined Angie's List. I'm very disappointed so far. In addtion to the attorney situation, there was not a SINGLE bank or financial institution listed in my little town or even one in the nearest city. SAD!

Answered 2 years ago by LP1Guy

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Ratings are for comparison...to differentiate the good from the bad...a rating system for attorneys thus would by its very nature assume that there ARE, in fact, some good ones. It would be as futile as rating politicians.


You want a less bad attorney? It is simple, just look for one that has little or no advertising and spends their time actually doing legal work instead of concocting marketing campaigns. The bigger and more well known they are, the more of your fees are going towards their advertising.


You want the best attorney possible? Easy! Just look for the one with the LEAST number of years experience at fluffing up client billing and dragging out litigation. Look for the ones fresh out of law school that are still idealistic enough to believe that the law is an important stabilizing force in society that occasionally produces justice...rather than an amoral chess game to be played by jaded manipulators because they are privileged to have Bar Association membership cards.


Attorney ratings...pffft...what would be next? Ratings on crediblity of UFO or Bigfoot sightings?

Answered 2 years ago by Skeptik

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Here's another vote for rating attorneys

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_9754249

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I would love to seet this too. Bar associations are a boy's club for attorneys. There really is no honest or easy way to rate these guys, as they're expert at hiding their reputations.


Answered 2 years ago by Guest_97917931

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We are looking to hire a real estate attorney, and wanted to check him out before proceeding. It is awful to think that with all of the money I have paid to Angie's List over the years, the one thing I really need now is unavailable. I googled the lawyer, and found a site that had two reviews for him. One from two years ago said he was awful; the other from last year said he was great. I don't know who to believe at this point...I wish Angie's List had been useful this time.

Answered 2 years ago by Guest_90071611

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Angie's list won't list attorneys as a category because of the liability. It is probably the one cagegory that is the single most difficult to find an honest, reliable professional - and therefore would be a highly accessed category within Angie's list. However, my guess is that some national association of attorneys has 'arranged' it so that Angie's list doesn't list them. I have a lot of experience with attorneys - mostly real estate and probate. I've had good luck with most real estate attorneys. On the other hand, finding a fair, honest probate attorney is difficult. the higher the value of an estate that is being probated, the more billable hours the attorney will justify. They are ruthless. They introduce conflict where it wouldn't otherwise exist - because conflict means yet even more billable hours. While you need an attorney to probate an estate, appointing one as your Executor in your will is a collossal waste of money. Appoint someone efficient and strong minded enough to not put up with attorney's BS and just get it done so your money ends up where it is intended - in the hands of your heirs - not in the hands of the attorneys.

Answered 2 years ago by nashsavoy

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I presume the reason Angie's List doesn't rate attorneys is the same reason why the rest of the world allows them to basically do nothing and still get paid! The legal profession makes our laws, legislates our laws, executes our laws, litigates our laws and judicates our laws. AND they are the ONLY profession that gets paid whether they perform or not! If you don't believe that, just look at our Congress! They do nothing yet get paid for the REST of their lives by US and guess what, they are 90% Attorneys! But the biggest reason a company runs from speaking out against an attorney is the threat of litigation. Attorneys are members of the biggest "boys" club in the world. We lay folk don't stand a chance.

I would love to tell you who NOT to use in Charlotte, but I'm in the same boat as to how to find a good attorney. Had I had a proper resourse, perhaps I wouldn't be $6000 in debt from an attorney who got absolutely NOTHING done for me! Arrogant! Yeap, he was/is!!

Keep pushing! Let's see what we can find out!

Answered 2 years ago by jazminesinc

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Rating a lawyer is difficult; most people have little interaction with lawyers - buying or selling a home, drafting a will, prosecuting a personal injury action, traffic infraction, incorporating a small business - are the main reasons we retain lawyers and are not enough to really be of help. Ratings are too subjective in these circumstances and on a site like Angie's list...there are several professional rating sites - Martindale Hubbel and Avvo are two that come to mind - that evaluate the attorney's credentials, reputation among colleagues and accomplishments to assist the public in choosing...disciplanary complaints are available online through State licensing boards...best is a personal meeting and personal recommendations...any lawyer that charges a consultation fee or solicits you should be avoided...you should always receive a clear and comprehensive engagement letter outling the terms of the relationship...nonrefundible retainer fees are a tipoff to steer clear of the attorney...there should be a clear line of communication ...if a lawyer does not answer your questions or keep you apprised of things, get rid of him or her...state and local bar associations also can refer attorneys who are members...accordingly, there are better alternatives than Angie's List to help choose qualifed legal counsel...

Answered 2 years ago by Attyfforover40yrs

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Another vote for attorney ratings. I recently highered a lawyer that rarely contacted me back. I’d have to pay him to explain the same thing to him several times. He wouldn’t explain his reasoning for making decisions, when I would ask him about his recommendation he would get really defensive. I told him he had an obligation to refer me to another lawyer if he felt the case was beyond his scope. Two weeks later he said he had to tend to his wife, but he still had other clients.

Answered 2 years ago by NotMyCupOfTea

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I also came to this site in hopes of lawyer reviews.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_9375879

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I think it's a very touchy area for Angie's list. Lawyers can be very aggressive (great when they're acting on your behalf). That said there is a lot misinformation about attorneys out there and as a powerful community lawyers, through organizations such as Bar Association, want to control the information about them. Google and Yelp don't seem to have an issue rating attorneys. I used an online service I found called LegalMatch, used a different approach. I had an issue that invovlved my son. I used their site to detail my issue and concerns and with 24 hours I had four very detail responses from local family law lawyers.

Source: http://www.legalmatch.com/

Answered 1 year ago by BayAreaDad

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I am a retired attorney. When I needed to locate an attorney in another area for a client, I always used martindale.com. Search by type of service and only pick ones rated AV. The ratings are from other attorneys in the same area and, trust me, we know who the good and bad ones are. This is free and available to any member of the public.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_9301578

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I would imagine that attorneys would not like to have a site that would give users of their services a forum to rate their services and perhaps they have put pressure on Angie not to provide that forum.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_9019037

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I'm not sure exactly why Angie's List does not rate attorneys. Maybe it's because lawyers are already governed by the bars of each state. So, you can contact your state bar for information on attorney licensure, discipline, etc. Lay people certainly can give valid reviews from their individual perspectives and experiences with an attorney. But those opinions are dependent on a lot of factors that won't necessarily help other lay people decide whether the lawyer is right for you and your case. My best suggestion - ask a lawyer friend for a referral. That's what lawyers do.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_97902041

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I have been following this for a few years. I am so very weary of Angie's CONSUMERS trying to answer the question. Enough already! I want to hear from Angie herself why attorneys are not rated. We as your CUSTOMERS have already done enough lip-flapping about your possible reasons.


Now, please, honor and respect us.......and give us the reason.

Source:  chris RI

Answered 1 year ago by ChrisRI

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Darn it - I came here to get a good attorney's name only to find out attorneys aren't rated. Sounds like Angie doesn't want to risk the almost certain repercussions of rating an attorney anything but perfect. Given the scope for legal 'bullying' by attorneys who are rated badly, I can easily see why the category is absent.

Brings to mind that bumper sticker I saw a while back:

99.9% of all lawyers make the rest of us look bad.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_9844547

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I certainly don't know, and I'm appalled that one of the answers I just read was from Angie-central TWO YEARS ago, saying something like - "good idea, maybe we should". So, why in the hell haven't you? We pay for information, not to read why other people think you don't rate lawyers, or to hear them, too, ask for this service.


So, why don't you, Angie??? Do you not care about your paying customers, or are you afraid of being sued, or what??? If you can't/won't even answer this simple question, then why in the hell should I pay my hard-earned money to re-up?

Answered 1 year ago by brngrp

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I don't actually need a lawyer; I need a contractor, but as a new user, I thought I'd just browse the website a little first to get an idea of services, etc. I have to say this is incredibly eye-opening and distressing to see such an unbelievable disregard of customers' concerns - 3 YEARS!!??!! - without ever really addressing the question!! It certainly doesn't instill confidence in someone who advertises on her home page in HUGE letters: "TIRED OF LOUSY SERVICE?" Well, I know I'd be pretty tired of lousy service if I didn't get nothing but a runaround in response to my inquiry for 3 years. I think I'll have to look around some more for another website; this one appears to be growing a little too big for its own britches.

Answered 1 year ago by Nyolynto

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Hello, this is Garrett, community moderator at Angie's List. As of right now, the purpose of our site is to focus on providing the best information possible in regards to home and health providers. At the current time we do not offer information on attorneys or lawyers. I apologize for the inconvenience in this matter. Thanks so much.

Answered 1 year ago by garrettk

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Garrett, I would've been embarrassed and a little ashamed to have submitted a response so dismissive and condescending as yours to subscribers asking a legitimate question which by the way you still didn't bother to answer. Bravo, you should be proud.

Answered 1 year ago by shamokin

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There was no intent to be condescending. Our focus and business plan does not include lawyers at this time. I recently became the community moderator and people were asking for an answer. Thanks, and have a good day.

Answered 1 year ago by garrettk

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@garrettk, why did you waste your time? Yes, we know Angies List doesn't provide reviews for lawyers. That's what we have been complaing about.

Answered 1 year ago by NotMyCupOfTea

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Right, but I was answering the reason why. The focus of the business is on health and services around the home. I apologize if I upset anyone by answering. Enjoy your evening. Thanks!

Answered 1 year ago by garrettk

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It would be better if Angie's List state up front that Legal Services and Attorney's are not included in their ratings system.


But perhaps that might drive away some memberships.


So Garrett, get ready to keep answering this question for a few more years.

Answered 1 year ago by A1fonzie

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To Garret - thank you for being responsive as a newly designated moderator. It is the responsibility of Angie's List executives to make a decision about this matter; as well, theirs to approve your response to all of us. Throwing mud at you is unkind and undserved - most of the posters here are frustrated and the answers you provided via the executives missed the gist. An attorney posting here made two suggestions for us - a website showing ratings from attorneys rating attorneys & the American Bar. Neither one is what we want. The attorney-rating site is laughable providing only check-marked phrases, no helpful info at all. The ABA does not provide what we want either.

I'd like to believe you, Garret, responded because this was getting under your skin. I don't, but I'd like to.

Angie's is now offering to be our contractor and find the services FOR us. I will remain a member and find it valuable. Due to Angie's lack of response, consideration of its consumers' angst, regard for our intelligence, and trustworthiness in this matter alone, I would absolutely NOT use this new service, nor would I ever suggest it to the many who know I use Angie's List. Imagine Angie's Answer List as a company being rated on this site. Response time? Work done? Show up on time? I just don't trust the company as much as I once did due to its refusal to explain WHY, WHY, WHY...are they hesitant to review attorneys. (attorneys have as much to do with our homes as doctors).

Again, Garret, thanks for responding to us.

Source: Chris RI

Answered 1 year ago by ChrisRI

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Thanks for the kind response, Chris. I understand the frustration, and, as you mentioned, I'm here to relay the information I have at my disposal. I saw that this thread was still receiving requests for an answer, and thought it best to at least acknowledge the questions. I realize it's not much, and likely unsatisfactory. I have let the product development team know that this request to rate lawyers exists. Thanks again!

Answered 1 year ago by garrettk

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As a paralegal working for a criminal defense attorney I can fully understand why Angie's List does not rate attorneys. First and foremost it is difficult to find an unbiased opinion, especially for a criminal attorney. for example: A person with a lengthy prior criminal record may have been arrested for a minor violation but due to that persons history they end up doing more time than they feel is fair and therefore will almost blame the attorney. If you really want to know about attorneys, the best place to look is at the Bar cite for your state. For example: if you live in Florida you can google Florida Bar. From there you can locate various types of attorneys and what standing they have with the Bar. You can see how long they have been in practice, if any disciplinary actions have been taken against that attorney, what year they were accepted into the Bar. What Law School they attended, etc. And the best part; it is free!!! Good luck!!!

Answered 1 year ago by CarolAnne

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As a physician and an attorney, I see no reason to differentiate between ratings of these two professions except that attorneys are more likely to bring suit against Angie's list for any "damages" caused by ratings than physicians. It's really pretty obvious, IMO.

Answered 1 year ago by sfemina

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I used to work at Lexis-Nexis in Dayton, OH. Lexis-Nexis is a law database used by lawyers. While there I stumbled on the Martindale Web site, which it self-describes as a "community of legal professionals." While it's mainly for lawyers, there is a search function to find lawyers in certain practice areas. The lawyers are peer reviewed, which means they are rated by other lawyers. Interestingly, I've never found a low-ranking review on this site. Martindale apparently only publishes ratings that are either Distinguished (4.0) or above. Maybe they're afraid of being sued! :-)

So you're either really good, or you're not on the list. Use the Advanced Search feature to find a lawyer in your practice area. Hope this helps.

Answered 1 year ago by jksfitz

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I just called and asked why I wasn't getting any results for "lawyer". The phone rep claims it's a category people don't ask for. Considering the over 294 comments here as of the day I'm posting I find that hard to believe, and my guess is lawyers would tend to take action if they get a bad review, which would be a hassle and very time consuming for Angies to deal with.


The other category she said they don't cover is Restaurants. That makes sense, since quality and ownership for those can change so fast, and is pretty well covered by newspaper reviews, Yelp, etc.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_94736151

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There is a lawyer-rating Web site you can go to: Martindale. Lawyers are peer-reviewed. Interestingly, being lawyers, they don't list lawyers with bad ratings; they just list those with good-to-superb ratings.

Who's going to sue you for saying good things about you?

However, I did run into one on-line commentator, apparently a lawyer, who back in 2010 said that Martindale was considering instituting a pay-for-play aspect: any lawyer could request a rating. But only those lawyers whose law firms paid a (rather hefty) subscription fee could get their rating posted to the Web site. So I'm more skeptical about this site than I used to be.

The article is "Martindale-Hubbell Peer Review Ratings: Pay-to-Play or a Ransom Demand??" and is located on a blog called legalwatercoolerblog.

I don't know if this program was actually implemented, but if it was, it could mean that there is a bias toward only big law firms and expensive lawyers. Indeed, I have noticed that the lawyers rated on Martindale are expensive. However, they are superb. I used one that has one of the highest ratings and he was absolutely excellent, but he was expensive.

I like the idea of peer review for lawyers because the law is so complex. I believe it takes an expert to accurately review a professional.

If the pay-for-play is true at Martindale's, it's a real shame. The Web site had a marvelous opportunity to do a tremendous good for society - identify excellent lawyers, thereby helping people find superb representation. In fact, Martindale had the potential to be as powerful as Angie's List has so far been. Angie's List has revolutionized the once-lousy Home Services industry by making service providers' work transparent, so everyone could see how they perform. Similarly, there are a lot of yucky lawyers out there. So Martindale could have had such a wonderful, transformative effect on society, just as Angie's List has had.

As in most areas of life, going for the money as your primary motivation screws things up. To make a ton of money, your primary motivation should be "I truly and intensely want to improve my world." Do that, and the money is likely to follow.

What people tend to forget is that money is, fundamentally, a convenient way to store value. If you're not providing true value, in the long term, you aren't going to be making the money.

Hope this is helpful.

Source: Martindale.com, http://legalwatercoolerblog.com/2009/...

Answered 1 year ago by jksfitz

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Not only would I like to see Attorney's added but also Dr's. This is invaluable information for users.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_92057952

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This is Garrett K., community moderator. While rating lawyers isn't a goal of Angie's List now, we do rate doctors and other health professionals. Thanks!

Answered 1 year ago by garrettk

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Hey Garrett K, we know Angies List does not have ratings for lawyers, that's what we're complainng about, obviously. Why did you even waste our time with that reply??

Answered 1 year ago by NotMyCupOfTea

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Answered 1 year ago by NotMyCupOfTea

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Oops I gave garrettk a thumbs up. I meant thumbs down.

Answered 1 year ago by NotMyCupOfTea

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Answered 1 year ago by NotMyCupOfTea

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Of all the professions I can think of, choosing a competent doctor and or lawyer may be two of the most imporant decisions a person will have to make in their lives. And because the average person knows so little about medicine or the law it is imperative that they are able to find the most qaulified, quality minded professionals they can. Ratings and reviews of doctors on Angies List is essential to finding the best healthcare professionals for your needs. Because Angies List has never said why they don't offer attorney ratings and reviews one must assume it's because they fear retribution from those poorly rated attornies who liked it better when no one was able to scrutinize their past job performance or lack thereof.

If Angies List wants to stay relevant and is really serious about providing what the people want and need, they will take a chance and start rating attornies. No doubt their cusomer base would increase substantially and more than likely there would never be a problem, but if it should become a problem at some point in the future, than stop rating them, as simple as that. It's time to do the right thing and start providing attorney ratings and reviews. It would probably be the smartest decision Angies List ever made. Why not give it a try.

Answered 1 year ago by shamokin

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I just started getting some emails indicating this thread is active again. I didn't want to read it all once more, but I'm still of the opinion AL doesn't ever want the possibility that some bad lawyer will flex their legal muscle their way for a bad review.

Answered 1 year ago by Guest_9844547

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I didn't realize that this List avoided rating lawyers; I just assumed the information would be there when I required it. Doctors and Lawyers are two PRIMARY categories that are hard to find. Suggesting getting a recommendation from a bar association is a horrible suggestion. They don't provide you with a name based on excellence.


My question is this: It is pretty inconceivable that NOT ONE person has written a review of attorney services that they have received; why are such reviews unavailable to us paying members? I have recently discovered that customers aren't the only paying 'members.' Unless I understand incorrectly, in order to be reviewed on this list, the PROVIDER must also be a 'member' and also pay a fee. This would mean we are not getting any reviews of those providers who don't pay up to the list.


I'm beginning to reconsider - there are other alternatives now.


P.S. The magazine is mostly unhelpful because it is mostly paid advertisements.


Answered 1 year ago by MaggieBarnes

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If the attorney was as effective as the house cleaners that I retained from Angies' List, I would be in the pokey a loooooooooog time. Obviously, not renewing.

Answered 1 year ago by Kenyon

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there are too many and a bad rating coudl result in a defamation of character suit.

Answered 1 year ago by carson66

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MaggieBarnes - re your posting - a contractor/vendor can be listed here (and reviewed) by anyone posting a review either to an existing business member, or to an existing business profile started by a member or non-member doing a review of a company. Anyone can start a new vendor profile by doing a review, if that company / vendor is not yet listed on AL. The company does NOT have to sign up itself, does not pay a business membership or listing fee, and does not pay to be reviewed.


The only thing businesses pay for on AL are to buy ads in the AL newsletter and such, to present Deals (AL takes a cut/fee), or to present coupons. If they don't want to advertise or offer deals, they pay nothing.


And yes, people have done reviews on attorneys, I have seen a couple - but since that is not an authorized AL category, they have been expunged when found under an incorrect listing category.


I agree that would be one of the most important categories to list to benefit members - but evidently AL (probably on the advice of their attorneys - how is that for a conundrum or conflict of interest) has decided to now list or take reviews on legal services of any kind.

Answered 1 year ago by LCD

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I suspect that it is an institutional issue such as the Virginia State Bar an agency of the Supreme Court of Virginia. We have had around ten attorneys, each failed us in certain ways involving legal strategies, the service the community provides. The failures included the following: 1) Not contacting social services mental health counselors who had treated a woman for spousal abuse spanning years for their divorce, she lost. 2) An attorney representing a probono client was caught stealing settlements, case damaged and the client was left without representation. 3) Was assaulted by Manassas Police in a CVS pharmacy after submitting to arrest, asked the attorney to review the security video - attorney never did. 4) Then there were the attorneys who dropped the cases threatening that they would not represent competently if they continued.

When I made a complaint to the Bar they responded that I could file a writ or malpractice but they did not address "strategy failures". On forums such as lawyers.com they responded that such things would be unfair.

Source: http://jstyxx.5gbfree.com/joweystyxx/...

Answered 1 year ago by jowey

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Attorneys are rated in another system. Theyre rated by peers as well. The top rated attorneys may be out of range financially for an average-income family. I found a resource I've used since the 80's. There's a low monthly fee, but it gets the job done across the whole US except Alaska. The service has top rated lawyers in a prestigious law firm. Theyre rated by an established group of 44 years in the legal industry.

Source: loraj.legalshieldassociate.com

Answered 1 year ago by JeanR

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I find it incomprehensible that you allow subscribers to rate physicians and dentists, but not attorneys. The idea of "specialization" being an excuse is a complete joke. When you consider that every single patient in a physician's office or in a dental chair presents with differing symptoms, reactions to medications, time required to diagnose, etc. etc. etc... point of "specialization" is laughable. Being able to rate an attorney based on your experience with a particular one or particular firm is no more complicated than anything experienced in a health care office.... in my 71 year old experience..
FAR less so. My husband recently retired from active practice in dentistry after 42 years. I have a baccalaureate degree in dental hygiene and worked in the field for quite a while... in referral practices where I saw work by many general dentists.. some who I'd gladly send family members to now.. or others to whom I would not send anyone. But, you will not accept my ratings of fellow practitioners that I know to be ethical, competent doctors. Our experiences with attorneys have been limited.. but varied greatly. Usually they have dealt with real estate transactions. Our very first house purchase was a horrid experience and we were overcharged in several categories. Would just suggest (if that fellow were still alive) that clients ask for closing statements BEFORE the closing date.. so that they can go over figures. We heard later that others had the same experience. In our inexperience, it would have been good to have had warning. More recently, we used a contracts attorney to review the sale of my husband's practice. This attorney was invaluable.. striking points the big "transitions" firm included in the contract which were illegal in our state and were actually, simply insane. Sadly, in the last 24 hours, the final copy went back and forth so many times that we signed the sales/lease agreement in haste without the attorney having read it. HUGE MISTAKE. Due to financing deadline we were trying to help the young man.. and they inserted an extension of the rent agreement from a "just helping him getting started" to a total of 12 years. A major commerical real estate firm estimates he should be paying 1/3 more rent at this point (4 years down the road).. It is costing us over $20,000 a year in lost rent.. and it devalues the property (by under-renting) to the point that we will not be able to sell the building until we are probably dead. NEVER sign anything .. no matter what.. until your contracts attorney has read the final copy. Divorce attorneys definitely need to be rated... we know of too many instances where attorneys have "connections" with judges, etc. and final judgments are so terribly unfair to a betrayed and abused spouse. '

As for the possiblity of being sued... I would assume Angies' List.. like any other practice or business.. is adequately insured against false claims. The very nature of the business must have some "not responsible " clause.

Peoples' lives are held in the balance of a good or poor attorney. That pales in comparison to statements of a physicians bedside manner or a complaint of what a patient might consider a high fee. Agree totally with other respondants who say to avoid advertising attorneys.. Believe me.. physicians or dentists who have to advertise should be avoided too!!! Any ethical professional can build a good practice on the basis of personal referrals. Advertising usually involves over-the- top claims and "deals" that in the long run, cost the individual more.

Use a little good Hoosier gumption.... start an attorney category NOW!!

Answered 1 year ago by Bonnetlady

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Hi, I'm an attorney in California, although I have retired. I am sure Angie's does not allow ratings for attorneys because bad ratings would probably attract lawsuits.


One way to "audition" an attorney is to go to your local courthouse and watch the attorneys in action. "Law and Motion" is a courtroom where attorneys go to settle arguments or to ask the Law and Motion Judge to order parties to do something before they go to trial.


Because it can take several years to get to trial, Law and Motion helps attorneys in their preparation for a trial, and sometimes to force an end to a case. Each party files papers telling the judge what they want and why, or why something shouldn't be allowed. The Judge or his research assistant will read the briefs and check existing case law and then set a date for the lawyers to come in and argue about that one subject.


Most cases take from five to ten minutes to present their arguments and the Judge will listen to a long list of cases in one morning. This is a great opportunity to watch the attorneys in action. You could see more than 50 lawyers there in a period of three or four hours depending on the size of your County. Rural areas will probably have only a few cases every week.


There are usually separate Law and Motion judges for Family Law, Probate, Civil Lawsuits, and Criminal Cases so you can see the attorneys who practice the type of law your situation requires. Law and Motion is usually scheduled on one or two mornings a week, but you can find out by calling or visiting the Administrative Office of your courthouse. You can also ask the Calendar Clerk what is going on that day in other coutrooms. They usually know about any interesting or exciting trials happening that day if you want to watch a trial.


If you attend a session of Law and Motion, say for a divorce, you can get a good idea of how an attorney presents an argument and if you watch closely, you can sometimes get an idea of how a judge and the opposing attorney feels about him or her. It is also a good opportunity to ask their client how they feel about their attorney after they have left the courtroom and the attorney has finished with his or her client. You can also ask the attorneys out in the hallway if they know someone good who can help you with your situation.


If the client has time to talk, ask them about things that are important to you. Does the attorney keep them up to date with the progress of the case? Does he or she or one of his assistants return your phone call within 48 hours? Every day attorneys have to be in court, attend depositions, interview witnesses and are often out of the office. When they are in the office there are briefs that have to be written, research, and meetings with clients. No attorney can return every phone call they receive every day and get any work done and it does annoy a lot of people.


While you are waiting for a trial date, months and years can pass where little or no work may be performed on your case. Some people get annoyed that they don't hear anything for a long time, but they haven't forgotten you. Phoning them every month to ask what is happening every just adds to your bill. When it gets closer to trial, they will be in contact with you more often.


The law prohibits court employees from recommending attorneys to people so you won't get any information from them.


Someone earlier suggested calling your local bar association and use their referral service. It's a good way to get a meeting with an attorney for $20 or $30 (which goes to the referral service) but they do not give you a rating or any information about the attorney's reputation or experience. Any attorney can sign up to be on the referral list. A lot of attorneys on the list may be newer attorneys which is neither good or bad. Many times legal work doesn't require an attorney with thirty-years experience and charging $500 an hour. I know a lot of good lawyers who put their names on referral lists. Every attorney I've ever known will make an appointment or confer with you over the phone and discuss what you need without charging for it.


Who else can you ask?


If I was looking for an attorney to represent me, I would probably start by asking my insurance agent who he or she likes. Insurance agents may have a lot of exposure to attorneys and may be willing to tell you who they would go to. You can also find out if your auto or renter's/homeowners policy covers you if you are being sued.


I would also ask my doctor or dentist if they know some good attorneys. Many health providers have had to deal with attorneys in their business. Anyone who is in business may be to give you a couple of names.


I would call your local newspaper and find the reporter who covers the courthouse. They may be willing to tell you who they think is good if their company allows it. They usually know who is good and who may not be.


If you are looking for a divorce attorney, ask your divorced friends what they think about their attorney. Maybe they will tell you they wished they had the attorney your spouse used.


When you meet with an attorney the first time, talk about all of your concerns. Price is usually a big concern. Depending on the type of case, you might have to pay in full each month, make payments, or if it is a personal injury case, the attorney may take it on contingency -- where the attorney takes a portion of the proceeds when the case is either settled or won at trial. Very few cases actually go to trial anymore because it is very expensive and courts are so overcrowded.


Hourly rates can vary a lot, and you should not judge an attorney simply by how much he or she charges per hour. I know very good attorneys who work out of their homes and will charge you less because their overhead is lower. I know some lawyers I would never use who charge $400 and more per hour. Rates at large law firms can be very high because they have a lot of people to pay and a fancy (and expensive) office to support.


It is almost impossible to tell you how much it will cost if you are party to a lawsuit. The other side can make it very expensive if they want to fight about every little detail.


Many attorneys will charge a flat fee for simple document drafting, name changes, etc.


Most attorneys will put everything in writing for you. If they don't, ask them too. Ask if they take credit cards if you are short of cash.


Laws and courts are a little different from State to State, but hopefully this will help you find a good attorney to represent you.


Lawyer advertising used to be prohibited by most bar associations but you can see it everywhere now. Don't choose an attorney just becausee he or she advertises on TV, bus benches or has a full page ad in the Yellow Pages. There is no way to judge an attorney by what their ads look like. Sometimes they get so much business from TV that your case may not get the attention it deserves. Most attorneys really try to do their best for their clients though.


Good luck! Believe it or not, lawyers are people, too, and most of them became lawyers because they want to help people.


This is just my humble opinion, but hopefully it will serve you well.


Answered 1 year ago by doglover12345

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Try avvo.com. They have attorney reviews, and a rating system. Don't get a lawyer off a TV ad, billboard etc. You will only be calling a factory and not get individualized attention. Avvo can find you a lawyer in your area and you can read the reviews. Much better than just picking one

Answered 1 year ago by Msfino

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They have not added them since this thread began 3 YEARS AGO!


The only answer can be that Angie's List doesn't want to be sued for speaking negativity about attorneys and we all know many folks that would have some things to say about attorneys. Attorneys eill likely consider a negative review" defamation of character"!!

Answered 11 months ago by Mrybthy

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Because Angie's List has made a cowardly business decision . . . period!!


EVERY other category of rating is based on MEMBER INPUT frequently based on opinions or impressions more than factual issues - none of which originate with Angie's List. A basement moisture-proofing contractor could sue Angie's List as readily as an attorney.


In all probability, the only way or a member could be successfully sued for content rating attorneys would be to knowingly post false, slanderous and malicious materials in a review.


The only way Angie's List could be successfully sued would be to knowingly publish false, slanderous or malicious material OR fail to remove the material once notified of its questionable nature.


The TRUTH is a virtually impregnable defense - so sticking to FACTS should be entirely safe.


Generally, "any idiot with $25 can file a lawsuit" - even an offended attorney. Or doctor - or dentist - or lawn service - but Angie's List has, (or should have) its own Liability Insurance to deal with such threats - should one become serious.


In the absence of more "guts" being displayed by Angie's List, checking your local library for the Martindale-Hubbell listing/rating of lawyers in your neighborhood - or check your local State and/or County Law Associations.

Answered 10 months ago by PFW

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A good attorney is hard to find because so many research facilities are now using them instead of lab rats. There are three main reasons for this:


(1) Attorneys were becoming far too plentiful;

(2) Lab assistants don't ever become attached to them; and

(3) There are some things that rats just won't do.


I know this personally because I am a retired attorney--really!


Please tell the authorities I am trapped in a laboratory cage with several other attorneys, and I would rather be sacrificed than share my cell with such vermin.


BTW, please don't tell my mother that I'm an attorney--she thinks I play piano in a whorehouse!

Answered 10 months ago by JHC

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There are a few comments on Angies List not responding on WHY they don't list attorneys - look at the comments with a very large number of negative marks, by Cas and JP and others - those two in particular plus some others were responses by AL member services reps - just not identiifed as such.

I wonder if their attorneys told management not to list attorneys - sort of old-boys-network protection of attorneys as a class,, or perhaps the sharks protecting other sharks from being caught out on their bad behavior ?

Answered 3 months ago by LCD

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I hired an attorney based on the bar association recommendation, turned out his paralegal who he later married after divorcing his wife was the one handling my case. She completely messed everything up including the dates of injury. I was a paralegal years ago and ended up having to file the correct forms, get the medical records etc... & basically handled my case myself, however you are required too have an attorney representing you by law.


It got got to the point that after the case was settled the judge suggested that I file a malpractice complaint & sue him. Unfortunately I couldn't find a lawyer to take a malpractice case against him. Worse I found out he had used one of his associates as the attorney of record & he wasn't aware of it. Signed all the documents by POA and the lawyers named he faked never even saw my file. I have found he's done this multiple times, associates usually last 6 months before they find another job.This is the reason lawyers need to be rated. Doctors information and ratings are very easy to find on Health Grades, but info on lawyers cannot be found for anything.

Source: HealthGrades.com

Answered 1 month ago by Magicmanmbsc

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If you want another Angie's List client to answer with his opinion-multiple organizations rate attorney's and for that matter service providers in multiple categories. In California the State Bar Association don't provide ratings per se, but do note if complaints filed against a licensed attorney exist. The process of "rating" an attorney, accountant and related professionals is so difficult that to do so would certainly bring with it a lawsuit by attorney's if they received a lower rating than they feel they deserve and we live in a society where false accusations against attorney's are far too numerous to filter through.

If AL decides to take this on---it could certainly be helpful, but fraught with errors of omission and misleading, to say the least, in my personal opinion only.

Answered 4 days ago by healthy94920




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