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Question DetailsAsked on 1/12/2018

need 36 yds. fill dirt and 18yds. crushed concrete rock about 1 in.orless and price delivered to 10731 lawana way,a

area code 32009

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You can find a lot of prior questions with answers and suggestions about the types of materials to use for certain purposes, issues to be aware of (like is area where you want the material placed accessible by a heavily loaded truck or is the contractor going to have to tram it with a bobcat or such, or you wheelbarrow it), and typical costs (you appear to be in a generally lower end of materials cost area for both crushed rock and for topsoil) - look in the Lawn & Garden > Landscaping Materials link under Browse Projects, at lower left for previous questions and answers.


The Search the List categories for vendors to provide your materials is Mulch and Topsoil for growth media for planters or for starting a lawn, and Stone and Gravel for general fill and crushed products - when you talk to vendors, many (unless being delivered by the processing plant directly with its own trucks) will obtain and haul both products for you whether or not they are listed in both categories.


If you need it spread out and maybe compacted, then an Excavation contractor would be the more normal Search the List category (though a lot would be listed in all those categories) - but Excavation contractors should have the equipment for any preliminary rough grading and for spreading and compaction of the delivered material, as well as a dump truck to haul it from a source they purchase it at - ones listed in the materials categories might just be truckers who deliver.


Of course, if you want it delivered and fully placed and dressed and maybe seeded too, then Landscaping would be the normal Search the List category for all those services in one contractor.


Bear in mind also, you almsot pay for the delivery charge (commonly $75-200 per trip depending on haul distance and truck size) plus so much per cubic yard or ton of material, so if you may have future use for a stockpile the incremental cost for that to fill out a part load is quite small compared to having to get a small quantity delivered in the future, because you have alrewady paid the delivery charge. For instance, I keep a 3-5cy stockpile in my yard of topsoil and crushed 3/4" minus base rock left over from full truckload deliveries for major projects - which can carry me for several to 5+ years without having to pay for a delivery of material for specific smaller projects - just break out the wheelbarrow and start moving it. Also takes away the concern about whether you accurately estimated the amount needed for your project, because uyou do not want to have to pay a hundred or two delivery charge for a final couple of yards to finish out your job.


In your case, a "normal" dumptruck size in most areas is around 12-15cy for a full-sized dumptruck (though with crushed rock or gravel commonly isnot allowed to carry a full load due to weight restrictions), so unless your area allows fully loaded tractor trailer rigs with stone (so say 2 trips of fill and one of the crushed rock for your job), the 36cy and 18cy need may result in three / one full loads respectively, and one partial load each, to finish out the deliveryof your desired amount. So if you have stockpile space in the yard, buying full truckloads and stockpiling the excess per above should be a serious consideration unless this project is going to fully "finish out" your landscaping needs indefinitely. For the crushed rock material (does not work with topsoil or mulch because it grows in) spreading it out thicker where you are using it, especially if using it to provide mud-free yard cover or weed-free area under a deck or such, allows you to then reclaim some of it later on for other uses without having a mound of material in your yard. For instance, I put a foot of pea gravel under the swingset decaders ago - it is now down to the minimum 3-4 inches to prevent weed growth and provide a soft falling surface, the rest having gone to other projects over the years.


Be sure to cover any topsoil/mulch topsoil stockpile with a plastic tarp to prevent significant going-to-seed from seeds falling/blowing on to it, because let a mulch/topsoil pile sit open and it will quickly become rootbound and very hardto dig and use. Ditto if you place it over tree roots - generally they will grow up into the pile from below and root-bound the lower part of the pile. Crushed rock not so much of a problem - takes a lot of blowing dirt and seeds to start going to seed because of the lack of the fines the seeds need to retain water for their germination and early growth.


And be sure to clarify which way you are paying - topsoil and mulch and such are generally sold by the cubic yard, crushed products by the ton, weighing in at typically around 1.5-2 tons/cy depending on amount of stone/rock in it (which is heavier than sand or silt) - but some will quote per yard, some per ton if you ask for a "per yard" price, so be clear whether you are being quoted and buying yards or tons. Some shyster outfits will quote a per-ton price when customers say yards, then when delivered say - "but that is how the product is routinely sold - so you need to buy more tones for your job".


And of course, don't just order by a "truckload" - which can run from 1/2cy-1cy for small landscape job topsoil and stone delivery services, to around 10 tons for the smaller Ford dumptrucks and such, 10-20 ton capacity (typical 12-15cy bed), on up to as much as 20-30cy in some state which allow truck and pups (commonly 12-15cy truck plus 5-10cy pup trailer) or tractor-trailer "MaxHaul" type side or end-dump trailers - assuming your dump location allows such a large rig entry and does not have a steep slope or grassy slope which the truck cannot access. And of course be sure the place you are having it dumped has space for it - a normal 12-15cy truckload leaves a pile about 4 feet high and about 8-10 feet wide and about 10-12 feet long.


You said "crushed concrete rock" - which is the coarse aggregate used in concrete mixes, mixed with sand and cement to make concrete. You may know exactly what you want, but if looking at this for a parking pad or a levelling course before placing topsoil or such, generally that is lacking in the finer material needed for good compaction so it will kick around a lot over time and not support wheel loads well, and if used as a lawn base will allow a lot of the topsoil to settle and wash into it. Generally, you would want a well-graded 1" or more commonly 3/4" minus paving base material for those purposes - the same material which is used as the base layer right under concrete or asphalt paving. Spereads easily, compacts well, and doesnot kick around once in place. Oh - and if using this as a pad or ground cover, rounded material (river gravel) is "softer" to play/walk on but harder to walk on and ruts badly when driven on, crushed rock compacts down hard and stable.



Answered 6 months ago by LCD




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