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Question DetailsAsked on 12/1/2017

How can i offer my services

I'm osha certified forklift operator/instructor & operator..15 years experience project manager at U.S.military base. 15 years experience site administration. And a lot more.
I feel like I'm just wasting away. I have sent out my resume over 220 times. I've been bartending 30 yrs & have always had that to fall back on, but I want to do something much more challenging like I'm used to.

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Angies List cannot help you there - as far as I can see they do not even have employment services or temporary services as a category listing.

Congratulations on trying to move forward.

My first impression is sending out resumes listing bartending is fine for looking for jobs at bars or hotels, but put that on an application for project management positions would probably get it thrown out immediately - it adds no meaningful experience history for that type position.Many people controlling hiring (I would be one of those) would shy away from a bartender - just not the general type of person I would normally hire, though granted there are probably a lot of very nice people out there who are bartenders - but just brings to me an image of a scruffy lowlife living on the seamier side of life, plus possibly also a serious drinker or at leat one who would morally make a living helping customers embalm themselves (hence a potential liability for the employer) - all downers for a professional application. If your military base management experience is recent, list that chronologically (showing advancing resposibility levels over time) and leave off the bartending. If a ways back, if you stay with a functional as opposed to chronological resume you can eliminate those bartending positions easily.

On the forklift operator thing - unless looking for a warehouse/cargo handling job (low-end position) or maybe light construction position (operating RT forklifts, basket truck, mobile scaffolding lift, etc) that does not help your resume either - that is a position that takes about 2-4 hours OTJ training and a couple days of the super/foreman watching over the shoulder to be sure the operator is being safe - not a "professional" or "career" skill so I would not mention it, though if looking for a construction job not a negative skill to mention in passing.

With your background and the current severe construction/building trades shortage of personnel, I would say your best bet is hitting up (in person, well dressed but not necessarily the "executive" look) would be construction managers at larger building sites and also company owner/operations managers. - looking for (ultimately) a site manager or project engineer/project manager position but possibly initially talking (if admin experience is not recent) a site expeditor or light equipment operator or similar position as a foot-in-the-door position.

Could also access that sort of position by going union in like teamsters, operating engineers, or carpenters union apprenticeship of "move-up" training program - all those trades (and most building trades) are looking for warm bodies, and your experience should make it pretty easy for you.

Another possibility - contact the MBE/DBE/WBE/Native (especially the latter) firms getting federal contracts for base and federal facility operations and maintenance - they are commonly desperate for experienced people who know the "government way" to do things and related paperwork. Ditto to corporations with a lot of government O&M contracts - of course the more relocation/TDY-flexible you are the better.

Ditto to federal agnecies (taking into account budget cuts) like Park Service and GSA and such who commonly have high rotation in maintenance/projects/ops management positions.

Of course, if not tied down, LOTS of positions for your experience in the Middle East and Asia with military (GS positions) and with government support contractors, if you don't mind nice sunny, sandy locations like beautiful expansive Iraq/ Syria or the stunning mountain views of Afghanistan - commonly paying around $90-100K or even more including allowances and haz duty pay and such for your type experience.

And (assuming you are honorably discharged vet) don't forget VA placement support - as well as if fairly recently discharged the Vet preference on federal and some state/local government hiring, where you get (used to be 10) vet preference points over other candidates.

On the 220 resumes thing - in my pre-retirement career, for the about 5 job-hunitng times when the job did not come looking for me, I don't recall EVER getting a positive response or interview from sending out cold resumes though I did do some of that a time or three - most never got past personnel/HR. For the positions I got and/or were interviewed for, I ALWAYS either established contact through a contact I already knew at the company or who was the FUNCTIONAL manager of a specific project I was interested in joining, who I either approached by phone or in person about possible positions at their firm or about joining a specific project team, then sent/handed them a resume as followup. For cold contacts I researched who the TECHNICAL (not HR) person handling interviewing (usually the person who would be my boss or my boss's boss) and made contact with that person to convince them I could be of use to them.

Listing with a no-fee (employer pays all the fees/commission) temp job service might not hurt, though that (mostly, with most job services if not with a nationwide company) restricts the possibilities to your immediate locale, might get you a foot-in-the-door job where the employer can look at you for possible permanent hiring.

From that experience and from having been directly in charge (as the project manager, department head, etc) of filling probably about 100 or so positions over my time, I would say directing your attention to specific projects rather than companies is much more productive - find projects just at the point of going to the go-ahead point or for which major contracts have been or are about ot be awarded, and direct your job search to the firms who will be staffing up for those jobs - a LOT more positions come open that way than through normal corporate personalle rotation. Ditto for foreign jobs and government ones - rotation tends to be a lot higher than as established home-base companies.

Approaching them KNOWING in some detail what jobs or specific types of work they do is essential - you need to, in the first 10-30 seconds, to convince them you might be a good fit for their organization, or that you may be a prime candidate to fit a position they need to fill to accomplish their mission. And a VERY important key is contact them and get your resumes (one for that person, one for HR) in the hands of the person who will be actually making the hiring decisions BEFORE they decide to advertise a position - cuts the competition way down, though some companies and aqgencies have to go with open recruiting.

Oh - on agencies and large corps - if they have to go open recruiting for positions, find out WHERE they list (usually their website, normally not publically advertised at all) because most do not pull together previously submitted resumes to add to the stack of candidates - you have to apply for each position individually once they are listed, usually keying the application to that specific job offering or advertisement number.

Oh - and ALWAYS, unless just handing the resume to someone you happen to meet face to face, include a cover letter - and everyone who accepts a resume from you should get a professional follow-up letter.

And resumes - have two - one "initial impression" one that is one face of one page only, another with more detailed relevant experience detail and such - and unless they ask for it up front, always list "references available on request" on the bottom, not include initially - many, many resume reviewers toss any over 1 page unless from a very experienced person being looked at for a senior position - the idea is initially to pique their interest in you Quickly - then have detailed resume and references etc. available if they come back to you.

Oh - and when bartendering (depending on whether you are an employee or part-owner or what) you probably have a lot of regulars in manual trades and construction and such - if fair game in your establishment, drop hints when talking to them that you are looking to expand your horizons with a new job in the fields of _____. Personal referrals and tips about job possibilities get a LOT more jobs than cold-calls or cold-sent resumes.

And don't forget to set up a Linked-In profile - some employers ALWAYS go there first - and quit if an applicant does not have a profile. And be sure to clean up any social postings - LOTS of employers mow hire web-search companies to troll candidate social media for adverse images or impressions or news articles, arrest records, etc.

Good Luck

Answered 2 years ago by LCD

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